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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.23 09:11:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:hope they never fix this. highsec wars have always been BS and dec shield is the best shield.
This solves the opposite problem than the one Wardecs actually have (namely, the ease by which defenders can escape*).
But it amuses me, so I approve wholeheartedly.
*Especially since WarDecs are now officially "paying for targets," those targets ability to freely disband and reform their corp is a significant problem.
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.24 04:31:00 -
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bufnitza calatoare wrote:oh thast easy to get around.
once you boot the "wardecced" corp from alliance they cannot rejoin for a week .
so redec the corp. and collect easy kills from dec shield like before.
You might consider reading the OP before pooh-poohing it.
DecShield 2.0 isn't about shedding decs, it's about trapping the attacker into a permadec with the Alliance and the various PvP people who might join it.
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.25 21:35:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I'm afraid if I join I'll wake up one day with you standing over me with that look on your face. People tell me I have a trustworthy face
I trust you to do something...
Problem is, I don't want that thing to happen.
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.26 12:39:00 -
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Karah Serrigan wrote:If this is really how it works i see no future for your business because there is no way this wont be taken as an exploit and fixed.
Could it be that that is his intention?
That's the reason DecShield 1.0 was formed, so it stands to reason...
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:19:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Karah Serrigan wrote:If this is really how it works i see no future for your business because there is no way this wont be taken as an exploit and fixed. Could it be that that is his intention? That's the reason DecShield 1.0 was formed, so it stands to reason... I think all three of us might be operating under a too-optimistic assumption that CCP wants to preserve pvp in high-sec.
If they don't and this forces them to show their hand earlier, that works too.
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.27 06:46:00 -
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Adolf Hilmar wrote:Gerard Gendri wrote:You actually think that a wardec makes any impact at all on a nullsec alliance? Yes, because they won't be able to recruit new corps into their alliance.
Why would that be?
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.27 07:37:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:But these aren't just normal wars we're holding over them, these are outgoing wars. And alliance with an outgoing war CANNOT recruit another corporation to the alliance, ever again. If any corporations ever leave that alliance, they'll also have outgoing wars. A corporation with an outgoing war CANNOT join an alliance, ever again.
Wait, seriously?
Jesus Christ CCP.
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.27 09:42:00 -
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Karah Serrigan wrote:Gerard Gendri wrote:The Zerg Overmind wrote:They don't all bail. Only about 20% of our victims have bailed. And since we'll continue to accumulate them, the choice of highsec targets we're holding captive will only get better. Some entities will never be able to escape or disband like the nullsec alliances. If any of them are foolish enough to declare wars they'll end up screwed. You actually think that a wardec makes any impact at all on a nullsec alliance? Hey was it before or after the change that forced the highsec corps to drop the wardecs on goons, that they started to suicide gank in niarja with their mains????
During that Wardec, weren't they too busy with HAG suicide ganking Hulks?
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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.27 19:08:00 -
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Karah Serrigan wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:
During that Wardec, weren't they too busy with HAG suicide ganking Hulks?
You mean because there was only a short time frame of 2 months before the patch when this was possible rather than ALL the years when they were wardecced?
Whe?
I was responding to the claim that suicide ganking freighters was only possible because they weren't wardecced. I pointed out that, during the last big wardec they weren't suicide ganking freighters because they were too busy suicide ganking exhumers.
As a big old bonus, being wardecced would not affect their suicide gank strategies with Freighters either (from what I understand, they spend most of their time logged off to avoid ze faction Popo, only logging in once the target is picked and bumped off the gate).
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Posted - 2012.09.27 19:44:00 -
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Karah Serrigan wrote:
Yes and i made the claim because they arent doing by alpha strikes. They are using the cheapest hull they can get, catalysts, brutixes, and bump things offgate to get as much time as possible. If they were wardecced, they would have to switch to arty ships and get one shot off on the gate, or do it with alts out of alliance. But they, being goonswarm, crave for attention, so doing it in alt characters is out of the questions and we wouldnt have a 20 pages long "goon freighter suicide gank" thread.
As to the hulkageddon thing, it wasnt an operation in one system, you cant hunt catalysts in whole eve. But you can camp a single system and wait for their freighter ganking squad. And they were constantly and repeatedly wardecced by different highsec griefing corps/alliances, probably for longer than 5 hulkageddon durations combined.
If they were wardecced, they'd simply keep bumping until the WT gets bored and stops following them, or they'd have an alt gank squad set up for when WTs are around. Or they'd just gank the WTs.
Or, they'd switch to Arty and either alpha through the WTs before ganking the freighter or alpha the freighter. What's that fleet composition that they were using to take large swaths of space? The Alpha doctrine? I wonder what principle it operates on...
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